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Unread 04-09-2013, 03:40 AM   #1
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So it seems Saurik and cydia have been updated for the loss of our aptickets,
the full article can be found here : Where did my iOS 6 TSS data go? - Jay Freeman (saurik) , and in the new tss center on cydia.(As seen above)
Go there now to see if you have been affected,As of now i only lost IOS 6.0 shsh blobs for my 3GS.

But the question for the fans is What does this mean for me, Well he kinda answered that for us...
"Honestly, due to the various limitations on the exploits we have for the reuse of APTickets, not many users are affected by this issue.
First, if you have a recent device, iOS 6 APTickets are entirely useless: you cannot use them to downgrade, you cannot use them to upgrade"
meaning newer device owners should not need to worry " In particular, no iPad, nor any recent iPhone (not even the iPhone 4S)"
So who really does this effect? "This means that 74.2% of Cydia users are not affected at all.
Secondly, for the remaining 25.8% of Cydia users (are)"

So how do we know if we have been burned by this, open cydia and scroll on the main page till you see the New TSS center, enter the new page and it will show you up the top the blobs that are still saved for your device. i am pretty Sure he has removed all BAD blobs from his server so only GOOD ones remain.
So this brings me to my main question, how do we know that this will never happen again "Thankfully, I have been told by MuscleNerd that changes have been made to redsn0w to make any similar situation we may potentially run into in the future (where the manifest information being used by our tools differs, causing Cydia to save unusable information) something that will be noticed while the signing window is still open (in fact, he believes the very first day), allowing things to be corrected."
i should let it be known that you can send good blobs to the TSS server with redsn0w still,and it will put them there(Yes i will be resending my Good 6.0 SHSH blobs to his server) for good keeping.
And for your idevice please use the many tools to save your blobs and NEVER,i repeat NEVER leave all your eggs in one basket..
If you dont know these tools there is Ifaith, tinyumbrella (and if know how to do it Redsn0w will also do it).

did u caught up in this issue,let us know what you think.

(yes i put this together myself with things i wanted to know,Im not a blogger usually but i just didnt see this posted and thought it would be usefull information to some)
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Unread 04-09-2013, 04:12 AM   #2
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They figure that %72 are on 4S and up? Wow. That does not seem right. Anyway, this is why you should have your own copies of your blobs.

This will be a lesson learned for most.

Really though, other then trying a new firmware version (5.0, 6.0, etc) I have never used any of my blobs and now that A5's can't be down graded (yet????) I don't think I have used one in the last year and a half.

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I lost 6.0-6.1.2 also. But I have a folder on my desktop in which i use tinyumbrella with them saved. Are those corrupt too? Should I delete them
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Unread 04-09-2013, 10:03 AM   #5
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I lost 6.0-6.1.2 also. But I have a folder on my desktop in which i use tinyumbrella with them saved. Are those corrupt too? Should I delete them
why not spend five minutes and check them using iFaith
either they corrupted or not
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why not spend five minutes and check them using iFaith
either they corrupted or not
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Did you check the guy's profile. If you did, you would realize he is on Mac. As far as I know iFaith does not run on Mac yet. I thought an upcoming Mac release was announced, but I heard no more of it. Will iFaith run properly in Parallels and VMWare, though?
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Its fine. I have vmware on my mac. I am checking it now.
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We keep getting told save your blobs they may come in Handy, now we can request 6.1.3 from apple via TSS centre on cydia, why? Are we ever gonna be able to downgrade a A5 device no-one seems to be working on a way forward in that direction..............
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I lost 6.0-6.1.2 also. But I have a folder on my desktop in which i use tinyumbrella with them saved. Are those corrupt too? Should I delete them
iPhone 4, also lost 6.0-6.1.2

I did save SHSH with TU, but I'm on a Mac... Anyone care to check my blobs for me? Many thanks

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iPhone 4, also lost 6.0-6.1.2

I did save SHSH with TU, but I'm on a Mac... Anyone care to check my blobs for me? Many thanks

3170509938039-iphone3,1-6.1.shsh
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I just checked both of yours aburri91, they are fine.

As for mine 6.0 and 6.0.1 are corrupted, therefore I can delete them. right?
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Did you check the guy's profile. If you did, you would realize he is on Mac. As far as I know iFaith does not run on Mac yet. I thought an upcoming Mac release was announced, but I heard no more of it. Will iFaith run properly in Parallels and VMWare, though?
it will run just fine on VM ware..... if not im sure he can get access to a PC for 5 mins

not sure if you were trying to be rude to one of our Mods but it sure came across that way... maybe you might edit your post?

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We keep getting told save your blobs they may come in Handy, now we can request 6.1.3 from apple via TSS centre on cydia, why? Are we ever gonna be able to downgrade a A5 device no-one seems to be working on a way forward in that direction..............
I share your sentiments and wonder why the lack of success on a downgrade development. Are the jailbreak developers giving the downgrade and re-restore even 10% of the effort they give to the jailbreaks? Jailbreak without re-restore is a job half done, but still useful and appreciated.
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I don't understand why people are complaining. So we're not able to downgrade at the moment or ever. That's something we'll learn to deal with. If you want it to be a possibility, then do it yourself. To say it's a job half done is an insult. You do realize all your jailbroken phones were FREE right? And I'm sure all the jailbreak developers have a day job to make money.
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I share your sentiments and wonder why the lack of success on a downgrade development. Are the jailbreak developers giving the downgrade and re-restore even 10% of the effort they give to the jailbreaks? Jailbreak without re-restore is a job half done, but still useful and appreciated.
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I don't understand why people are complaining. So we're not able to downgrade at the moment or ever. That's something we'll learn to deal with. If you want it to be a possibility, then do it yourself. To say it's a job half done is an insult. You do realize all your jailbroken phones were FREE right? And I'm sure all the jailbreak developers have a day job to make money.
Disagree.

Bitching and whining about a JB yet to be released, that's both an insult and unappreciative of the effort that goes into a JB... as well as a complete disregard for ones own lack of skills to produce one.

That said, a JB without re-restore is, in my not-so-humble opinion (on this matter at least), a job only half done.

Keep in mind, while a JB is a complex undertaking requiring a specialized skill-set and lots of effort - even more than a single person can deliver as we've seen with the formation of dev-teams (emphasis on "team") - this is not without benefit to the devs themselves... they rely on Cydia sales and some donations to help off-set the time/effort/cost, albeit likely not a break-even proposition for them. And recently we've seen the JB Devs release Apps in the App Store... so they have other "iDevice" revenue streams not directly linked to a viable JB.

The truth is, loss of your JB does have an impact on the devs, of JB's and otherwise (Apps/Tweaks).

If you JB for the "fun of it", that's one thing. If you rely on the JB to make your iDevice "functional" and a "good value" for you, then it really calls into question why a user would stay on iDevice in the absence of a viable JB.

Bottom line, a non-restorable JB is worth $25 bucks to me in donation. A re-restorable JB (ie. viable JB ) is worth $100 bucks to me in donation. Without file-system access, I may as well look at alternative devices. JMO.

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yea my ios 6 blobs are crap but i have my 5.1.1 saved still.

got to wait another few months till the next big JB
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Agree.



Disagree.

Bitching and whining about a JB yet to be released, that's both an insult and unappreciative of the effort that goes into a JB... as well as a complete disregard for ones own lack of skills to produce one.

That said, a JB without re-restore is, in my not-so-humble opinion (on this matter at least), a job only half done.

Keep in mind, while a JB is a complex undertaking requiring a specialized skill-set and lots of effort - even more than a single person can deliver as we've seen with the formation of dev-teams (emphasis on "team") - this is not without benefit to the devs themselves... they rely on Cydia sales and some donations to help off-set the time/effort/cost, albeit likely not a break-even proposition for them. And recently we've seen the JB Devs release Apps in the App Store... so they have other "iDevice" revenue streams not directly linked to a viable JB.

The truth is, loss of your JB does have an impact on the devs, of JB's and otherwise (Apps/Tweaks).

If you JB for the "fun of it", that's one thing. If you rely on the JB to make your iDevice "functional" and a "good value" for you, then it really calls into question why a user would stay on iDevice in the absence of a viable JB.

Bottom line, a non-restorable JB is worth $25 bucks to me in donation. A re-restorable JB (ie. viable JB ) is worth $100 bucks to me in donation. Without file-system access, I may as well look at alternative devices. JMO.

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I respect your opinion on the matter and you bring up good points. I'm just personally sick of people always bitching, complaining, and hating on these devs because they are unhappy with their efforts. If one believes it's a job half done then so be it, but I don't think the majority of iOS users would switch over to another device if their phones are not jailbroken. Some would simply wait until the next available jailbreak. I completely understand your argument about an iOS device as a whole and the marketability of it knowing it is capable of being jailbroken. I think you speak for the better part of humanity to say devices are only jailbroken for a more user-friendly experience, but the fact is that a lot of people are pirates. I applaud you for donating 25 to 100 dollars but I would say a lot of people wouldn't donate at all. I do believe piraters are more prominent in the jailbreak community than people who aren't. That is the reason why I'm so annoyed when people complain. You jailbreak your device for the sole purpose of installing apps (Cydia, iTunes, games, etc.) for "free" and still have the audacity to complain about aspects of the jailbreak? That's just ungrateful and unappreciative as you mentioned.

Again, I don't disagree with your comments and your points are well received. My frustration lies within piraters that bitch and moan when they themselves have not contributed anything. There will always be people putting up $600 for an iPhone but would never donate to devs and/or purchase a single app. That's a little infuriating.

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I respect your opinion on the matter and you bring up good points. I'm just personally sick of people always bitching, complaining, and hating on these devs because they are unhappy with their efforts. If one believes it's a job half done then so be it, but I don't think the majority of iOS users would switch over to another device if their phones are not jailbroken. Some would simply wait until the next available jailbreak. I completely understand your argument about an iOS device as a whole and the marketability of it knowing it is capable of being jailbroken. I think you speak for the better part of humanity to say devices are only jailbroken for a more user-friendly experience, but the fact is that a lot of people are pirates. I applaud you for donating 25 to 100 dollars but I would say a lot of people wouldn't donate at all. I do believe piraters are more prominent in the jailbreak community than people who aren't. That is the reason why I'm so annoyed when people complain. You jailbreak your device for the sole purpose of installing apps (Cydia, iTunes, games, etc.) for "free" and still have the audacity to complain about aspects of the jailbreak? That's just ungrateful and unappreciative as you mentioned.

Again, I don't disagree with your comments and your points are well received. My frustration lies within piraters that bitch and moan when they themselves have not contributed anything. There will always be people putting up $600 for an iPhone but would never donate to devs and/or purchase a single app. That's a little infuriating.

I mean no malice. Just my thoughts.
I am not sure if you noticed the last sentence of what I said. I do appreciate what the jailbreakers do. I just wish they could or would finish the job to allow at least a re-restore, if not an outright downgrade.

I don't think whether jailbreakers are jailbreaking for bad or good reasons is at all relevent to whether the jailbreak devs create a re-restore or a downgrade.
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So you just needed to add a qualifier... I think we're in agreement for the most part.

One clarification, when I referred to "good value" it was purely from a "functionality" stand-point, not monetary in terms of re-sale value. I'm fortunate enough to buy whatever phone I need (I stress need, NOT want) but it has to do what I want or it's a waste of money. With iPhone (iDevice in general, I have a JB'd iPad as well, again, needed) it is so closed as to make it non-functional for my needs. Therefore, not a good value for me and why re-restore is critical.

I think anyone reliant on the "functionality" aspect of a JB are -very- likely to consider moving away from iDevice should JB become extinct.

And, with more frequent reports coming out about how easily folks lost their JB, I would think this should light a fire under the Devs to "Get er Done!"

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I respect your opinion on the matter and you bring up good points. I'm just personally sick of people always bitching, complaining, and hating on these devs because they are unhappy with their efforts. If one believes it's a job half done then so be it, but I don't think the majority of iOS users would switch over to another device if their phones are not jailbroken. Some would simply wait until the next available jailbreak. I completely understand your argument about an iOS device as a whole and the marketability of it knowing it is capable of being jailbroken. I think you speak for the better part of humanity to say devices are only jailbroken for a more user-friendly experience, but the fact is that a lot of people are pirates. I applaud you for donating 25 to 100 dollars but I would say a lot of people wouldn't donate at all. I do believe piraters are more prominent in the jailbreak community than people who aren't. That is the reason why I'm so annoyed when people complain. You jailbreak your device for the sole purpose of installing apps (Cydia, iTunes, games, etc.) for "free" and still have the audacity to complain about aspects of the jailbreak? That's just ungrateful and unappreciative as you mentioned.

Again, I don't disagree with your comments and your points are well received. My frustration lies within piraters that bitch and moan when they themselves have not contributed anything. There will always be people putting up $600 for an iPhone but would never donate to devs and/or purchase a single app. That's a little infuriating.

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Unread 04-20-2013, 02:47 PM   #19
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its definitely a good idea to backup after this!
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