My opinion on this is...these pigs are disgusting, useless, and a disgrace to the human race. They did not have to shoot the dog. Pepper spray or other alternatives would have worked just fine, even in this situation.
The story behind the video: the dog owner, along with 3 of his friends, werewalking down the street and all of a sudden the dog owner has a seizure. The dog, acting like he was trained and doing what he was instinctively made to do, protects his owner from any potential threats. As you can see in the beginning of the video, a woman steps close to the owner (who is lying on the ground) and the dog chases her down and gives her a warning...doesn't attack, doesn't bite...jut a warning to back off. The disgusting pigs in the video decide to ignore this warning and do the same thing...the dog attempts to warn them the same way, but the pig decides shooting it would be the best decision.
The thing that pisses me off the most is that...even after shooting the dog, they proceed to ignore the owner who is lying on the ground having a seizure. Apparently, the cops in the video didn't have the training to handle seizures and called for backup. ACC (animal care & control) was already en route to the scene. Why shoot the dog if you couldn't help the person anyway? They shoot the dog then just stand there, letting the dog thrash around in agonizing pain and bleed out. Had the useless pigs in question just stayed back and let ACC handle the dog the proper way, this would have never happened.
Ive been working for my local animal shelter for the past few years and I know for a fact...pepper spray will deter ANY vicious dog, no matter what the circumstances are. There is absolutely NO reason to use a bullet to stop a dog. I don't care if it's a pitbull or not, that makes no difference. I hope the owner sues the fuck out of the city, the NYPD, and the cop who shot the dog personally.
Your thoughts?
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Reason: Fixed video.
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I can't bear to see this as I'm a dog lover myself and the pig(s) should be put down the same way as they did the dog.
Thanks for fixing the link...pain in the ass doing this shit from the iPad some times
But yeah, I'm an extreme dog lover and this shit just pisses me the fuck off. There was absolutely no reason to use a gun in this situation. As the video shows, after the cop shot the dog, the other cop pepper sprayed him...why not just pepper spray to begin with? I've been on dangerous dog calls countless times and no matter what a dog is doing...even if it's charging at me, pepper spray works like a charm. I even think pepper spray is a big excessive...but it would have been better than a fucking bullet. They shot the dog...ok...then they just fucking stand there and do nothing for the dog OR the person on the ground? What a waste. Fucking pigs. I generally have great respect for cops, but these types of videos makes me hate them more and more.
Cops need to draw the line between protection over law abiding - tax paying citizens and abuse of power. Anyone can shoot a gun, but it takes a brain to know when to use lethal force.
Pepper spray & tasers FTW...
Imports are like tampons, every pussy's got one...
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The thing is, where I'm from, I can safely say that very few carry pepper spray when they are out and we sure as hell don't carry guns. In this situation if you stay still and/or walk away, the dog will not pursue. The solution should be; pepper spray the dog, subdue it and attend to the owner. Capping the dog is not an option!
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Some are saying the dog is alive and with ACC...but I highly doubt that. I just don't see how a dog could survive a gun shot and bleeding out like it did in the video. The pigs are attempting to cover their tracks. Luckily PETA and other major animal activitists are large in NYC and I'm sure they will get their justice against these assholes. I hope.
It would be one thing if they shot the dog then take care of the owner on the ground...but they didnt. They just stood there trying to cover it up. Trying to control the crowd from fucking them up like they deserved. I truly wish I were there.
My 105lb German shepherd is sleeping between my legs as I type this...it just fucking angers me beyond everything to watch this video. To see even cops don't give about this shit. To see even cops are pussies when it comes down to it. Theyll use tasers and pepper spray for anyone, even someone for speeding tickets...but not here? Fucking pigs make me sick.
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Guys, the owner looks dead to me, he didn't move throughout the video, and no one on the tape said anything about helping him, so I would say he was gone beyond a doubt. Was there any follow up to this story? did the dog survive?
Mother fucking human race.Its a sin to to be called the intelligent humans taking such nasty decisions on their own.What if there was a human in that dog's place?
Whould he have shot?
We have done our own fucking rules.Its just because they cant talk or take revenge, hole mother fucking humans takes them for granted.
I just wish he gets chewed up by dogs while he begs for mercy.
I will pray for his death.
If i ever come in direct contact with u, i will make u drink dogs urine and make u eat dogs shit.U mother fuck
Mother fucking human race.Its a sin to to be called the intelligent humans taking such nasty decisions on their own.What if there was a human in that dog's place?
Whould he have shot?
We have done our own fucking rules.Its just because they cant talk or take revenge, hole mother fucking humans takes them for granted.
I just wish he gets chewed up by dogs while he begs for mercy.
I will pray for his death.
If i ever come in direct contact with u, i will make u drink dogs urine and make u eat dogs shit.U mother fuck
I love dogs.Give respect to their innocence.
With the greatest of respect, wishing someone gets "chewed up" by dogs and praying for someones death is not exactly the friendlier or intelligent side of the Human race either is it?
This is just horrendous - I'm shedding tears just by watching this.
This is why I hate these pigs, they abuse their power. And I'm from New York, so I've seen this kind of corruption in person, but never to the point where they've shot a dog. My dog is back in New York, and the fact that I can't fly back this second to check on her kills me on the inside.
And just watch how this all rolls out in court... I quote the following from the late George Carlin:
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
If it suits their purposes, people are gonna lie in court. The police do it all the time. All the time. Yes they do. Its part of their job to protect, to serve, and to commit perjury whenever it supports the states case.
I have an hour until I start my college classes today, and I know that it'll be hard to focus after seeing this.
The NYPD are trigger happy and have the looses CCE standards I have ever seen.
What I find even more disgusting is that they shoot a dog once - but when it's a black man they shoot them 40-50 times.
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Amadou DIallo approached by plain-clothed officers Sean Carroll, Richard Murphy, Edward McMellon and Kenneth Boss in the vestibule of his building believing he "matched the description" of a rapist they were looking for. The officers said they yelled and identified themselves as police - but they were plainclothes and Diallo having committed no crime was in the process of taking out his wallet to enter his building. He was subsequently shot 41 times - the officers believing the wallet was a gun.
The internal NYPD investigation ruled the officers had acted within policy, based on what a reasonable police officer would have done in the same circumstances with the information they had.
The officers were acquitted the officers of all charges.
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- Darrius Kennedy (NYPD): Shot 12 times. After being stopped and detained for smoking marijuana (a misdemeanor) he became agitated and began walking down the block backwards away from police and produced a knife. This walk when on for several blocks. Rather than use their tazers, pepper spray or nighsticks, or other available less than lethal methods. Police say he lunged at one of them - from 20ft away and thus were required to shoot to kill. Result (1) Commissioner and investigators say it was a "clean shoot" and legal. No punitive or disciplinary action.
- Sean Bell (NYPD): Shot 50 times. Police say he shot at them. No weapon found. Forensics showed no GSR on his hands or bullets exiting the vehicle. Result (1) Officers not found liable.
Result (2) One officer sued Bell's estate for injuries he occurred while murdering Bell.
- Ramarley Grant (NYPD): Police said they saw the butt of gun in his pants while he was at the store. They asked him to stop as he entered his home. Police then illegally broke down the door to the home without a warrant, then knocked down the door to his duplex apartment where they fatally shot him in the bathroom. No weapon was found. Result: Pending
- Omar Edwards (NYPD): Shot in the back by a NYPD cop while Edwards was chasing a robbery suspect in Harlem who he just observed breaking into his car. The irony: Edwards was a POLICE OFFICER! Result: Officer not charged.
- Jose Colon (NYPD) *survived
NYPD police performed a hard entry at 2am at his apartment looking for his son who. When they enter, the gun "accidentally" went off shooting Colon in the stomach as he was in the hallway. No weapons or drugs were discovered. Result: Officer not charged.
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The above post by Heist makes for unpleasant reading, only being a visitor to the states can you just clarify a few things please, so I can understand a bit more how things work out there.
When a Police officer is suspected, or accused of behaving outside the law, is the officer investigated by his own Police force? or is it referred to an independent authority?
Secondly, I have read a few times on here that Police entered a property unlawfully, or broke down the door illegally without a warrant. In the UK, the Police can enter any property if they believe someone in that property has, or is in the act of commiting a criminal offence, is it not the same there?
The above post by Heist makes for unpleasant reading, only being a visitor to the states can you just clarify a few things please, so I can understand a bit more how things work out there.
When a Police officer is suspected, or accused of behaving outside the law, is the officer investigated by his own Police force? or is it referred to an independent authority?
Secondly, I have read a few times on here that Police entered a property unlawfully, or broke down the door illegally without a warrant. In the UK, the Police can enter any property if they believe someone in that property has, or is in the act of commiting a criminal offence, is it not the same there?
I'll answer your question in two parts:
First, most all larger metropolitan police organizations have a IA Unit (Internal Affairs).
Internal Affairs are the police of the police but they are not an independent body. Rather they are part of the police force tasked with review and audit of police matters that may be of a criminal nature or in violation of the code of conduct.
IA is only an investigative body though. Although they may at times work alongside the Prosecutors office, they are not part of the judicial system, and will turn their findings over to the high brass and/or Proesecutors office who will then make the decision whether to meter out disciplinary action or prosecute.
Constitutionally, police in America may not enter or search ANY residence without a warrant unless some very basic criteria are met. They must have a high degrees of reasonable proof that a crime is in commission (i.e. Someone is yelling for help), A criminal was in the process of a crime - the assailant runs inside their home and locks the door), evidence of a crime was within their purview (i.e You opened your door and the police saw a stack of child porn mags on your coffee table or you standing in front of your window snorting lines of coke) or their is an emergency (house is on fire, someone inside is believed to be dead or medically unresponsive), however, even in the case of emergency entry this does not exclude them from charging you with any criminal offenses they happen to find in the home.
This very simple set of criteria are often tossed aside and rights violated more times than one would care to think.
Hence the reason I always advocate that if anyone ever has the occasion where police are at their door, you speak to them THRU the door and do not exit your residence.
If you feel you must exit your residence to speak with them, always crack the door first with your foot firmly behind the door (cops love to put a hand on the door and swing it open to make it seem like they're helping you - actually, they just want a big eyeful of whatever they can see inside) - open it enough for your body to side step out - and close the door behind you.
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Once again, the local authorities, who are supposed to be the exemplaries of the civilians failed us. It is a disgrace how ignorant they are, the measure he took did not require that much of an aggression. RIP innocent dog
Apparently, the dog survived...at least that's what was reported the day this incident happened. Th dog was listed as in critical condition, but still alive. I just find that hard to believe, since it was shot in the head and left to bleed out for at least 10+ minutes. I haven't been able to find any updated articles about the dogs condition, though.
Like I said before...a bullet was absolutely not needed. The cops had no business even stepping near the person on the ground, since they wouldn't be able to help him anyways. This was proven after they shot the dog...they still didn't do a single thing to help the owner. People from the crowd also said that the cop was seen kicking the owner to see if he was responsive...yet they are surprised the dog came at them
Business owners and other people from that area know this guy and said him and the dog were very friendly, never had any problems at all and that he has seizures semi-regularly. It would be one thing if the cop shot the dog so he could help the owner...but obviously that wasn't the case. Animal control was already on the way, along with the EMT's...why the fuck wouldn't they just stand back and wait for the PROPER people to handle the dog the PROPER way? Just another case of excessive force by the cops. Unfortunately, I doubt anything will happen to the cop. I do hope the owner sues the fuck out of the city, the NYPD, and the individual cop, though.
I also read an article the other day about a NJ K-9 cop who left his dog in his patrol car for 2 hours outside of the police barracks. The car had a malfunction in its temp. alarm and failed to turn on the A/C after it reached a certain temp. The came out 2 hours later to find the dog dead in the car due to the excessive heat. Why the fuck would you leave the dog in the car for 2 hours when you're inside jerking off? It's amazing how stupid a good majority of cops are nowadays.
The dog may survive but will never be the same around people ever again.
It may just think that every Human that is not its owner is now out to hurt or injure it.
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