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Unread 04-21-2011, 08:33 PM   #1
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iPhone sends data to apple twice a day...

Found an interesting article about Apple's data collection practices and some good reasoning as to what they are doing with it.

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Original Source Link: Actually, iPhone sends your location to Apple twice a day - F-Secure Weblog : News from the Lab

Forensic researcher Alex Levinson has discovered a way to map out where an iPhone has been. The information comes from a location cache file found on an iPhone (Library/Caches/locationd/consolidated.db).

In practice, this file contains your travel history.



It should be noted that this file can't be accessed by third-party apps on an iPhone, as you need root rights to reach it. However, the file is copied to your PC or Mac during standard iPhone sync operations and is accessible from there.

Yesterday, security researchers Pete Warden and Alasdair Allan released an application that can take such a file and show your movements on a map.

Now, this sounds bad from a privacy viewpoint. For example, authorities could gain a court order to do a forensic examination on your phone to figure out where you've been.

But why is Apple collecting this information to begin with? We don't know for sure. But we're guessing it's likely related to Apple's global location database.

Like Google, Apple maintains a global database of the locations of Wi-Fi networks. They use this to get an estimate of your location without using GPS. For example, if your handset sees three hotspots which have MAC addresses that Apple knows are within a certain city block in London, it's a fair bet you're in that city block.

We know how Google collected their location database: they recorded them world-wide while they had their Google Maps Street View cars driving around the globe.

Where did Apple get their location database? They used to license it from a company called Skyhook. How did Skyhook obtain this information? Well, they had their own cars drive around the world, just like Google.

However, the Skyhook database is expensive. So beginning with iPhone OS 3.2 released in April 2010, Apple started replacing the Skyhook location database with their own location database.

And the real question is: How did Apple create their own location database? They did not have cars driving around the world. They didn't need to. They had existing iPhone owners around the world do the work for them.

If you run a modern iPhone, it will send your location history to Apple twice a day. This is the default operation of the device.



How can they do this? By asking for your permission first. There is an opt-in process during initial iTunes installation, but the prompt is highly misleading:



The iTunes prompt talks about helping Apple with Diagnostics information. It says nothing about recording your locations. If you take the time to read Apple's Privacy Policy, it does explain what they are doing:

***To provide location-based services on Apple products, Apple and our partners
***and licensees may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the
***real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device.
***This location data is collected anonymously in a form that does not personally
***identify you and is used by Apple and our partners and licensees to provide and
***improve location-based products and services.

We believe the new secret location database found on the devices is connected to this functionality. Apparently iPhones always collect your location information, even if it's not getting sent to Apple.
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Unread 04-21-2011, 08:36 PM   #2
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Unread 04-22-2011, 01:14 AM   #3
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Well, good luck with that, my iPhone 3g GPS is off by alot and thats only if it even works...
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Unread 04-22-2011, 01:23 AM   #4
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i bet apple arnt exactly wanking themselves silly over my data lol



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Unread 04-22-2011, 03:41 PM   #5
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When I sync and it's ask me first in the box if I want to send information to help Apple, it's always a big fat no from me.

I guess that's the 'iTunes prompt... helping Apple with Diagnostics information' you are talking about.
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Another reason why i won't let go of my Blackberry.
Secure means secure! Period. No backdoor fuckery or tricks from RIM.

Apple on the other hand, it's always a new gotcha or security leak with them.
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is there a way to disable or remove this file (Library/Caches/locationd/consolidated.db).
manually?
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is there a way to disable or remove this file (Library/Caches/locationd/consolidated.db).
manually?
Theres an app called untrackered on Cydia. It clears the file frequently. If you delete the file it just comes back i think.

I've always said no to the information collection prompt to. That part doesn't sound like a violation of privacy, because they asked. The consolidated.db file isn't cool though. I want to know about shit like that, and have an opportunity to turn it off.
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Theres an app called untrackered on Cydia. It clears the file frequently. If you delete the file it just comes back i think.

I've always said no to the information collection prompt to. That part doesn't sound like a violation of privacy, because they asked. The consolidated.db file isn't cool though. I want to know about shit like that, and have an opportunity to turn it off.
thanks for that- but I just searched on cydia for untrackered and it didn't come up???...
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thanks for that- but I just searched on cydia for untrackered and it didn't come up???...

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...apparently many of you don't understand that this actually helps iPhone/iPT/iPad users. These location logging helps greatly speed up location services, GPS etc... although I don't see why the data has to be stored on the phone after being sent to Apple so untrackered is useful.

BTW, I've been told that all Blackberry texts go through some Canadian servers? ...
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Another reason why i won't let go of my Blackberry.
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Apple on the other hand, it's always a new gotcha or security leak with them.
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If you install untracked does it disable the find my phone feature?
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No it just deletes stored location data more than 30 minutes old
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Nothin is secure everything is watched by law
Thats true. But if you know about these things you can protect yourself somewhat. There is a tool for law enforcement types that downloads this exact file and lets them know where you've been. By clearing this file periodically you can protect yourself. I suppose you could even tamper with the file to fabricate an alibi.
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This file doesn't track your location accurately though, it keeps logs of towers you connect to and often shows your location as hundreds of miles away from where you are in reality.
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This is the first world application allows you to view the file consolidated.db in your Iphone.

Check yourself if Apple is Tracking you

Even if you encrypt your data backup with itunes,
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